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Friday 19th Jan 2018

Welcome to "You Look FAABulous", our look at the FAAB reports for Tout Wars and LABR. Each week, your friends at Mastersball will post the results of the weekly Tout Wars and LABR FAAB run, featuring the winning bid as well a the runner-up bids.

Included with each league report will be commentary from a Mastersball staff member participating in that league. We invite you to ask questions and post comments at the bottom of the report.

All contingency bids for awarded players are included. Sometimes, this bid is tied to a player that the owner received, so at times the bid amount is larger than the winning bid. We are including it to provide as much information and context as possible with each report.

Here is the Tout Wars report. LABR is available below.


There are four Tout Wars leagues, a 12-team AL only, 12-team NL only, 15-team Mixed Auction League and 15-team Mixed Draft League. All use on-base-percentage instead of batting average. You can see the complete standings for each league by clicking on the appropriate heading, located just under each player photo.

Tout Wars uses a Vickrey system to award bids. For a complete description of the Vickrey system, click HERE for the Tout Wars constitution.

The amount the owner paid is listed in a column followed by the non-adjusted Vickrey bid. The remaining bids for that player are then listed in order of amount. if the amount of an unawarded bid is greater than what was charged, the bid was a contingency bid by that owner and they were awarded a player of higher priority.




SNolin, Oak 7 Steve Moyer 7 Jason Collette 7
ARios, KC 10 Larry Schechter 11 Mike Podhorzer 22 Rick Wolf/Glenn Colton 4
Ron Shandler 1
NReimold, Bal 12 Mike Podhorzer 22 Larry Schechter 11 Rick Wolf/Glenn Colton 4
CPennington, Tor 1 Larry Schechter 1 Chris Liss 1 Mike Podhorzer 0
JShuck, CWS 1 Ron Shandler 1
RHill, Bos 1 Jason Collette 5
MAviles, Cle 0 Mike Podhorzer 0 Larry Schechter 1
DMachado, Det 0 Mike Podhorzer 0
DNorris, Det 0 Chris Liss 0


JMontero, Sea Larry Schechter 11
CGonzalez, Tex Steve Moyer 7
JVillar, Hou Ron Shandler 1
TFeatherston, LAA Mike Podhorzer 0
BRyan, NYY Chris Liss 0

Rob Leibowitz' Commentary

I looked real hard at Alex Rios and realized he wasn't any better than anyone on my roster. No room for overly aggressive hitters who can't get on base to steal and have lost all their punch at the plate. I should've grabbed Sean Nolin last week when I wrote about him. His last start was an improvement and more in line with his minor league performance.  

Todd's Take

We had another FAAB snafu this week with Vickrey. There are two factors feeding into this. The first is Tout Wars doesn't prioritze the "rounds" of bidding. If you want three players you enter three blocks of bidding but no block takes precedent over the others. The problem with that is the system that automates the assignment of free agents looks at things on a round by round basis so if you list your lowest bid first, it may not see a higher bid for a different player in an ensuing block that beats another owner's first block. The second issue is we allow the adjustment of dollars left after Vickrey while the bids are still being awarded. As an example, say your max bid is 10 and you bid 10 on Smith and 10 on Jones in two separate blocks. You get Smith for 2 bringing your remaining FAAB to 8. The system then sees your bid of 10 for Jones and rejects it since you only have 8 units remaining. The Secretary of Waivers and Transactions (SWAT), in this case your humble pundit - me, has to do it by hand. If the bids are submitted in a certain manner you can get an endless loop. Fortunately we've never had that but we've come close.

Other than bagging Vickrey I'm not completely sure of the best fix. We can ask the owners to submit their bids in descending order of amount but that won't fix everything. We can work with the site operator to get the bids assigned more in line with how we want by not having the mechanism prioritze rounds but that won't fix the fact it doesn't so the in-round adjustment of the bids based on what is left.

I'm also 100 percent sure that only a couple of the owners realize this is how the system works and play into it. The others set their bids according to their max so they don't end up contributing to the loop.

The take-home lesson is if you have some quirks to a rule and use artificial intelligence to administer the rule(s), make sure it's doing the job as desired. And if not, make sure your SWAT is both diligent and patient.




JRuggiano, LAD 6 Peter Kreutzer 6 Tristan H. Cockcroft 5
TRoark, Was 5 Mike Gianella 21 Peter Kreutzer 4 Phil Hertz 3
Brian Walton 0
GGarcia, StL 3 Ray Guilfoyle 5 Peter Kreutzer 2
MBolsinger, LAD 1 Peter Kreutzer 2
APena, Mil 1 Phil Hertz 3 Peter Kreutzer 2
MMaldonado, Mil 1 Ray Guilfoyle 1 Phil Hertz 5
TMurphy, Col 1 Phil Hertz 3 Ray Guilfoyle 2
ADuvall, Cin 1 Phil Hertz 8
KSampson, Cin 1 Phil Hertz 3
RYnoa, Col 0 Peter Kreutzer 0 Phil Hertz 5
RWeber, Atl 0 Brian Walton 0


HPerez, Mil Phil Hertz 13 Peter Kreutzer 0
GKontos, SF Mike Gianella 8
HRobles, NYM Mike Gianella 8
TThornburg, Mil Mike Gianella 8
TMoore, Was Phil Hertz 5
JRogers, Mil Phil Hertz 5
MRojas, Mia Phil Hertz 5
DDescalso, Col Ray Guilfoyle 2 Phil Hertz 0 Peter Kreutzer 0
ZDavies, Mil Phil Hertz 2
JHerrera, ChC Phil Hertz 1 Peter Kreutzer 0
AAsher, Phi Phil Hertz 0
BBogusevic, Phi Peter Kreutzer 0
CStewart, Pit Phil Hertz 0
DRoss, ChC Phil Hertz 0
NAshley, Mil Phil Hertz 0
RCabrera, Cin Phil Hertz 0
SBrito, Ari Peter Kreutzer 0
SSchebler, LAD Peter Kreutzer 0
TWood, ChC Phil Hertz 0

Brian Walton's Commentary

As the season winds down, good players still remain on the National League Tout waiver wire. Three went for more than one dollar this week.

The group begins with the Dodgers’ Justin Ruggiano, who went to Peter Kreutzer, aka Ask Rotoman, for $6. With good success against lefties, the outfielder had two home runs and seven RBI in just 11 at-bats last week. Alas, Kreutzer does not get those results.

Next up is Washington’s Tanner Roark for $5. With Stephen Strasburg’s continued injury challenges and Joe Ross being pulled from the rotation to limit his innings, opportunity to start again was created for Roark. Mike Gianella was the winning bidder, with his $21 Vickrey bid reduced.

St. Louis second baseman Greg Garcia has been seeing time with regular starter Kolten Wong slowed by a strained calf. Garcia, grandson of former MLB manager Dave Garcia, will likely return to the bench unless Wong suffers a recurrence. Ray Guilfoyle of Fake Teams was the $3 winner ($5 Vickrey).

Todd's Take

I'm walking in the proverbial quicksand as we close out the season. I've been jumping in and out of last place with only a couple of points within my grasp. Not only is my squad disappointing, the standings distribution is such that I couldn't chase points to reduce my 2016 FAAB penalty for finishing below the points threshold. This is the second year in a row that I'll finish at the bottom. While I've never won a Tout title, I'm usually competitive. I can't believe I've forgotten how to play this game but it's going to be a long off-season pontificating on what to do next March.




CRobinson, Was 1 Al Melchior 6
YGarcia, LAD 1 Al Melchior 1
LHendriks, Tor 1 Al Melchior 1
TKoehler, Mia 1 Scott Engel 1
MBolsinger, LAD 1 Cory Schwartz 5
JEickhoff, Phi 1 Zach Steinhorn 6 Fred Zinkie 0
RHoward, Phi 1 Scott Swanay 4
NReimold, Bal 1 Fred Zinkie 5 Scott Swanay 4
THudson, SF 1 Tim Heaney 0 Fred Zinkie 0
HConger, Hou 0 Tim Heaney 0
AEllis, LAD 0 Fred Zinkie 0
TDuffey, Min 0 Fred Zinkie 0
KelJohnson, NYM 0 Fred Zinkie 0


SCastro, ChC Scott Swanay 4
THudson, SF Tim Heaney 1
TRoark, Was Tim Heaney 1
JCosart, Mia Scott Engel 1
JDanks, CWS Tim Heaney 1
JDeLaRosa, Col Tim Heaney 1
JHellickson, Ari Tim Heaney 1
NTropeano, LAA Tim Heaney 1
GSoto, CWS Fred Zinkie 0
MGonzalez, Hou Fred Zinkie 0
RHanigan, Bos Fred Zinkie 0
SClevenger, Bal Fred Zinkie 0
TFlowers, CWS Fred Zinkie 0
WRosario, Col Fred Zinkie 0

Zach Steinhorn's Commentary

Welcome to dollar days! For the first time this season, no player was purchased for a price higher than $1, and to be honest, there really isn't a whole lot to talk about. So I'll just touch on my $1 addition of Jerad Eickhoff and call it a day. We're at the point in the season where a few particularly poor pitching performances can eliminate any hope of gaining ground in ERA and WHIP, so owners need to be very careful. A number of my starting pitchers have unfavorable matchups this week, so even though Eickhoff has only a handful of big league starts under his belt, I feel a bit more comfortable with him, facing a Braves club that happens to be the lowest-scoring team in the Majors. Eickhoff has registered four quality starts in five tries, the only exception being a rough outing in Fenway Park, which is always a tough place to pitch. Banking on rookie pitchers when you're in the thick of a title race is risky, but in this case, it's a calculated risk, so I'll live with it.

Todd's Take

I agree with Zach's take on Eickhoff. The other starter worth a note is Tim Hudson, who has a two-start week if you're chasing wins. He won't get many whiffs and there's a reason why he lost his rotation spot earlier in the season, but AT&T gives him a cushion for a pair of home tilts versus Cincinnati and Arizona - a pair of clubs that do better at home and could scuffle with the huge shift in park factor.




DGarneau, Col 1 Rudy Gamble 21
NReimold, Bal 1 Adam Ronis 6 Tim McLeod 3
GBird, NYY 1 Tim McLeod 4
LVerrett, NYM 1 Adam Ronis 4


HConger, Hou Rudy Gamble 7
JSaltalamacchia, Ari Rudy Gamble 7
GBird, NYY Adam Ronis 5
FGutierrez, Sea Adam Ronis 1
MBourn, Atl Tim McLeod 0
TraThompson, CWS Tim McLeod 0

Perry Van Hook's Commentary

Rudy Gamble of Razzball needed a catcher, dropping Nick Hundley and bidding $21 on Rockies replacement Dustin Garneau, who had two home runs this week, and won him for a Vickrey adjusted price of $1. The other one dollar pickups were Nolan Reimold (6/1) and Logan Verrett (4/1) by Adam Ronis, and Greg Bird (4/1) by Tim McLeod. With a full roster and players I viewed better than the replacements (either for this week or for the balance of the season), I chose to hope there will be someone better to bid on next week.

Todd's Take

With the news that Mark Teixeira is out for the season, I'm a little surprised there wasn't more of a push for Gregory Bird.

Something to note about Garneau is the Rockies play three road games to begin the week and then embark on a 10-game home stand before ending the season on the road for the last week. So Colorado has 10 of their next 13 at home and then Adam can decide if he wants Garneau on the road that last week, though three games are in hitter-friendly Chase Field.


There are three LABR leagues, a 12-team AL only, 12-team NL only and 15-team Mixed League. You can see the complete standings for each league by clicking on the appropriate heading, located just under each player photo..




Carlos Perez, LAA 6 USA TODAY Sports 6
Ryan Flaherty, BAL 1 Baseball HQ 1


Cliff Pennington, TOR Baseball HQ 1
Mike Aviles, CLE Baseball HQ 1

Perry Van Hook's Commentary

With five teams out of FAAB  and several of us having just $1 left there didn't figure to be very much bidding and in fact there were just two bidders both successful in their quests. League leader Steve Gardner of USA Today also controls the FAAB claims for the rest of the year with $19 left after his purchase of Angel catcher Carlos Perez this week for $6. Dave Adler, BaseballHQ used one of his two remaining dollars to get the versatile Ryan Flaherty, BAL.

Todd's Take

The lack of players available and the winner-take-all nature of industry leagues made this a quiet week. The thing to realize is some don't like making moves, feeling those battling should fight things out themselves but the problem with that is by not doing moves, you are influencing things the same as if you were making moves. So what if you pick up a free agent that vaults you passed a team fighting for the title. By not doing anything, you are making it easier for one of those teams to pass you.




Alejandro De Aza, SF 11 Baseball HQ 11 RotoWire - DVR 5
Michael Cuddyer, NYM 11 Baseball HQ 11
Jhoulys Chacin, ARI 9 Colton & The Wolfman 9
Justin Ruggiano, LAD 9 Colton & The Wolfman 9 RotoWire - DVR 1
Daniel Descalso, COL 6 Inside Edge 6
Martin Maldonado, MIL 2 Inside Edge 2 RotoWire - DVR 1
Bud Norris, SD 1 RotoWire - DVR 1
Chris Stewart, PIT 1 RotoWire - DVR 1


Brett Wallace, SD Baseball HQ 11
Adam Morgan, PHI Colton & The Wolfman 9
Alexi Amarista, SD Inside Edge 2
Nevin Ashley, MIL Inside Edge 2
Ariel Pena, MIL Colton & The Wolfman 1
Logan Verrett, NYM Colton & The Wolfman 1
Williams Perez, ATL Colton & The Wolfman 1
Rafael Ynoa, COL Inside Edge 1
Tyler Thornburg, MIL RotoWire - DVR 1

Lawr Michaels' Commentary.

A week after the September roster expansion which always focuses on rookies the NL LABR moves look like a veterans reunion, starting with Doug Dennis who picked up Alejandro De Aza for his BBHQ team for $11, besting one bid of $5 while De Aza joins his third team this season. Doug also shot $11 for Michael Cuddyer, while Glenn Colton and Rick Wolfe spent $9 on Jhoulys Chacin, and $9 on outfielder Justin Ruggiano (there was a $1 challenge for the rights to Ruggiano).

Derek Carty went $6 for Daniel Descalso and then $2 for Martin Maldonado, while Derek Van Riper, jockeying with Eric Karabell for first added Bud Norris and Chris Stewart (each for a buck) to his roster to stay on Karabell's ESPN team for a final push.

Todd's Take

So that it doesn't appear I was calling out my AL LABR brethren - with my record in industry leagues the last couple of years I can't call out anyone - had their been the quality and quantity of players available similar to NL LABR, I'm sure the bidding would have been just as enthusiastic. My above comment was a general observation, not focused on AL LABR.




Dustin Garneau, COL 11 Razzball 11 BSports 2
Logan Verrett, NYM 6 Razzball 6
Michael Conforto, NYM 2 BSports 2
Michael Bolsinger, LAD 2 Razzball 2
J.P. Arencibia, TB 2 Baseball HQ 2
Roenis Elias, SEA 1 Baseball HQ 1


John Lamb, CIN Razzball 3
Chris Gimenez, TEX Razzball 2
Adam Warren, NYY Razzball 1
Jarrod Saltalamacchia, ARI Baseball HQ 1

Todd Zola's Commentary

I looked, I really did, but despite being low in the standings, there were no improvement I could see over what I have on reserve already. February and the 2016 Mixed LABR draft can't get here soon enough.

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