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Monday 23rd Oct 2017


Each week, your friends at Mastersball will post the results of the weekly Tout Wars FAAB run, featuring the winning bid as well as the runner-up bids. There are four Tout Wars leagues, a 12-team AL only, 12-team NL only, 15-team Mixed Auction League and 15-team Mixed Draft League. The Mixed leagues use on-base-percentage instead of batting average. You can see the complete standings for each league by clicking on the appropriate heading, located just under each player photo.

Tout Wars uses a Vickrey system to award bids. For a complete description of the Vickrey system, click HERE for the Tout Wars constitution.

Included with each league report will be commentary from a Mastersball staff member participating in that league. We invite you to ask questions and post comments at the bottom of the report.

All contingency bids for awarded players are included. Sometimes, this is a bid tied to a player that the owner received, so at times the bid amount is larger than the winning bid. We are including it to provide as much information and context as possible with each report.

*PLEASE NOTE - We have slightly altered the presentation in an effort to help you reconstruct the actual bidding a little better. The amount the owner paid is listed in a column followed by the non-adjusted Vickrey bid. The remaining bids for that player are then listed in order of amount. if the amount of an unawarded bid is greater than what was charged, the bid was a contingency bid by that owner and they were awarded a player of higher priority.




HStreet, LAA 36 Rick Wolf/Glenn Colton 74 Mike Podhorzer 35 Larry Schechter 13
Jeff Erickson 12 Steve Moyer 9
SCarroll, CWS 1 Andy Behrens 2
GGreen, LAA 1 Jeff Erickson 2
KYates, TB 1 Rick Wolf/Glenn Colton 1 Jeff Erickson 1
CKnebel, Det 1 Lawr Michaels 12
RIbanez, KC 0 Chris Liss 0
KJohnson, Min 0 Steve Moyer 0
DRobertson, Tex 0 Rob Leibowitz 0


DKelly, Det Chris Liss 0
EBedard, TB Chris Liss 0
KCorreia, Min Rick Wolf/Glenn Colton 0

Rob Leibowitz' Commentary

Colton/Wolf went full force after Huston Street and their one lagging category of saves. Few others with FAAB bothered to bid with the next highest bid being $35 allowing the first place team enough of a budget to still make key maneuvers the rest of the way. While Joe Smith has done a very impressive job as the Angel’s closer and does not deserve a promotion, the Angels did not give up their more advanced hitting prospect in Taylor Lindsey and others (though he projects as an Adam Kennedy type sans speed at best) in order for Street to be a setup man for Smith.

Todd's Take

What an odd few weeks as players of consequence have been available in AL-only leagues before the MLB trade deadline, forcing some interesting decisions if you don't need the player(s) available. If you need a stick, do you bid on Jeff Samardzija, Jason Hammel or Huston Street with the hope of dealing the arm for a bat? The problem with that thinking is the teams in needs of arms may not have the excess offense to deal for your new-found surplus in pitching.

Vickrey introduces an interesting twist and that's the ability to possibly deal the player for more FAAB than you had to pay after the Vickry reduction. The pieces have to align perfectly and it's even more of a risk to rely on this but it does make for an intriguing means of increasing your FAAB total to be in a better spot for the hitter you need if he crosses leagues.




JValdespin, Mia 8 Phil Hertz 18 Tristan H. Cockcroft 7 Peter Kreutzer 0
KQuackenbush, SD 6 Todd Zola 8 Seth Trachtman 5 Phil Hertz 4
RCastillo, FA 1 Peter Kreutzer 5
JMarquis, Phi 1 Seth Trachtman 1
CNelson, SD 0 Scott Wilderman 0 Peter Kreutzer 0
MDunn, Mia 0 Peter Kreutzer 0


KNegron, Cin Peter Kreutzer 0
DLutz, Cin Peter Kreutzer 0
JHughes, Pit Peter Kreutzer 0
CContreras, Cin Peter Kreutzer 0

Brian Walton's Commentary

Coming off the short week this time around, bidding was limited in NL Tout. Having several players coming off the disabled list, I was among those who sat out of the free agent market entirely this week.

With Rafael Furcal placed on the perpetually-disabled list, there should be at-bats in the Miami middle infield for Jordany Valdespin. Whether the former Met and his career .271 OBP can do anything with them is an open question. BaseballHQ’s Phil Hertz bid $18, reduced to $8 by Vickrey Rule.

Someone has to replace Huston Street as San Diego’s closer. Kevin Quackenbush was a somewhat popular target, going to Lord Zola for $6 versus his $8 bid. For what it is worth, Quackenbush pitched the final out of the eighth inning on Saturday, with veteran Blaine Boyer throwing the ninth in a game in which the Pads were up by six runs. In a tie game Sunday, Quackenbush again retired the final hitter in the eighth with Joaquin Benoit covering the ninth. Of course, there are rumors the latter could soon join Street on the road out of town.

Todd's Take

I'm not happy about it, it wasn't planned and it's bass ackwards to how I usually play but I have the second most FAAB as we approach the MLB trade deadline. Something curious is this is also the case in the NFBC NL-only auction and my team there is also struggling. After the season I plan on identifying the free agents I should have bid on and figure out why I didn't and make an objective decision if it was a mistake, or related to team construction etc. I don't want to make a knee-jerk reaction to a one-year flukey scenario, but it's odd I'm in the same situation in two different leagues.

With respect to my Quackenbush bid, I've come this far, I may as well protect my spot as the person that will be the second-most pissed when no one of consequence is dealt to the National League at the deadline. Had I been charged the full $8 FAAB, I'd still have the second most.




ECabrera, SD 1 Nando DiFino 20
TWood, ChC 1 Patrick Davitt 3 Fred Zinkie 0
GSizemore, Phi 1 Scott Pianowski 2
WDavis, KC 1 Scott Pianowski 5 Scott Swanay 4
JValdespin, Mia 1 Paul Singman 2
ZPutnam, CWS 1 Paul Singman 6 Derek Van Riper 5 Tim Heaney 2
BreAnderson, Col 1 Scott Swanay 7
AHarang, Atl 1 Tim Heaney 3 Fred Zinkie 0
SGreene, NYY 1 Fred Zinkie 3 Tim Heaney 0 Al Melchior 0
JKelly, StL 1 Derek Van Riper 11 Fred Zinkie 0
MShoemaker, LAA 1 Al Melchior 6 Fred Zinkie 0
DSalazar, Cle 1 Fred Zinkie 6
KKendrick, Phi 0 Patrick Davitt 0
GKottaras, StL 0 Patrick Davitt 0


KHendricks, ChC Fred Zinkie 3
OArcia, Min Nando DiFino 2
VNuno, Ari Tim Heaney 1
JDiekman, Phi Paul Singman 1
AAmarista, SD Nando DiFino 0 Paul Singman 0
BPena, Cin Patrick Davitt 0
TFlowers, CWS Patrick Davitt 0
LMorrison, Sea Nando DiFino 0
KQuackenbush, SD Al Melchior 0

Zach Steinhorn's Commentary

Since this was the second FAAB run in the last four days, perhaps the Mixed Auction Touts were “FAABed out” and needed a break. Or perhaps there simply weren’t a lot of players to get excited about. Or perhaps it was a little bit of both. Anyway, none of the winning bids exceeded $1, with Zach Putnam and Shane Greene being the most sought after players, each garnering three bids.

Putnam earned the save for the White Sox on both Friday and Saturday, so maybe he’s the official closer now? Maybe, but maybe not. Before Sunday’s game, Robin Ventura stated that Putnam and Jake Petricka are the favorites to be used in the ninth inning, so I guess this whole situation will continue to be a mystery. Even if Paul Singman gets one save from Putnam, the $1 spent would be well worth it, but keep in mind that Matt Lindstrom is only a couple weeks away from returning.

Greene, who is in line for two starts this week, has been a pleasant surprise for the Yankees, and he’s fresh off a dominant outing against the Orioles just prior to the All-Star break. But his minor league numbers are nothing special, and the Rangers and Blue Jays aren’t exactly easy opponents. I cannot help but think that a Chase Whitley type of regression is in store.

Everth Cabrera, who was recently released for a FAAB rebate, garnered the highest bid, but somewhat surprisingly, Nando DiFino’s $20 bid went unopposed. So, Nando only needed to shell out $1 for a guy who could be a legitimate difference maker when he comes off the DL, which is expected to happen before the end of the month. Overall, it’s been a rough season for Everth, but he does have 13 steals in 80 games.

Todd's Take

I'm not sure if the results of this league show the beauty of Vickrey or the problem with it. The league was willing to spend a collective 74 FAAB units on 11 players but the way things fleshed out, the minimum $1 was all it required for all 11. DVR got Joe Kelly for $1 since the next bid was $0. This took him out of the running for Zach Putnam. Scott Swanay's $7 bid for Brett Anderson was uncontested so that was adjusted to $1 and took Scott out of the Davis bidding. Tim Heaney was willing to pay $3 for Aaron Harang but only had to pay $1 since the other bid was $0. This removed Tim from Putnam contention. The result was Scott Pianowski's $5 bid for Davis and Paul Singman's $6 claim for Putnam both went uncontested so they were reduced to $1. Every other player had no second bid or the bid was $0 so the Vickrey cost was $1.

On one hand, it just seems unfair that it was just plain dumb luck that some bids are reduced while some aren't. But on the other, non-Vickrey also features just plain dumb luck so it's more a matter of which kind of dumb luck you prefer. I need to think it through and find a more crystalized means of making my point before deciding which way I lean.




JBenoit, SD 23 Nicholas Minnix 28 Adam Ronis 22 Perry Van Hook 11
Charlie Wiegert 9 Anthony Perri 8
CDickerson, Cle 3 Charlie Wiegert 9 Scott Engel 2 Perry Van Hook 0
EEscobar, Min 1 Tim McLeod 1 Perry Van Hook 1 Adam Ronis 0
GJones, Mia 1 Ray Murphy 1 Adam Ronis 0
ODespaigne, SD 1 Anthony Perri 6 Tom Kessenich 3
BMcCarthy, NYY 1 Charlie Wiegert 9
SGreene, NYY 1 Charlie Wiegert 9
EStults, SD 1 Tom Kessenich 3
JRutledge, Col 1 Perry Van Hook 1
JValdespin, Mia 0 Scott Engel 0
DNava, Bos 0 Adam Ronis 0 Perry Van Hook 0


JPeavy, Bos Charlie Wiegert 9
JArencibia, Tex Charlie Wiegert 4
JSmolinksi, Tex Charlie Wiegert 3
BPena, Cin Charlie Wiegert 3
CHeisey, Cin Charlie Wiegert 3
EJackson, ChC Tom Kessenich 2
WVenable, SD Ray Murphy 0 Scott Engel 0
BRoberts, NYY Tim McLeod 0
CHart, Sea Adam Ronis 0
JBradley, Bos Ray Murphy 0
JSchoop, Bal Tim McLeod 0
JUribe, LAD Adam Ronis 0

Perry Van Hook's Commentary

Remember those who tried to roster some cheap saves last week? Yes me with the winning Neftali Feliz bid of $0 and the fact that of the potential new closers Joaquin Benoit was already rostered. Well Benoit was also dropped last week so he was the flavor of the week Sunday with Huston Street moving from Low Cal to So Cal, Benoit fetched a $28 bid from Nick Minnix – Vickrey reduced to $23 to top the $22 effort from Adam Ronis.

I was well short with my $11 try on Benoit so I will reserve Feliz this week and hope Texas sends Joakim Soria to a different city. I had hoped that when I offered to trade Jimmy Rollins that Chris Owings would be back by now but his shoulder isn’t co-operating so I traded in Mike Aviles for Josh Rutledge for a dollar since the Rockies are home all week. It won’t hurt my outlook on the switch if Troy Tulowitzki has to rest his leg this week.

Todd's Take

I'm not going to publicly call anyone out but since this thought struck me while looking over the transactions in this league and I feel the advice is pertinent, I'll put it here. We're at the point of the season where category distribution is shaping up so specific stats may be more helpful that overall value in a vacuum. As you peruse the categories to see where you can gain or lose points, it helps to know how active the owners are especially if they're directly involved with the points in question. By looking at the free agent bidding and weekly lineup moves, you can see who has checked out for the season and factor that into your ability to gain or lose points.


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