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Wednesday 18th Oct 2017


Each week, your friends at Mastersball will post the results of the weekly Tout Wars FAAB run, featuring the winning bid as well as the runner-up bids. There are four Tout Wars leagues, a 12-team AL only, 12-team NL only, 15-team Mixed Auction League and 15-team Mixed Draft League. The Mixed leagues use on-base-percentage instead of batting average. You can see the complete standings for each league by clicking on the appropriate heading, located just under each player photo.

Tout Wars uses a Vickrey system to award bids. For a complete description of the Vickrey system, click HERE for the Tout Wars constitution.

Included with each league report will be commentary from a Mastersball staff member participating in that league. We invite you to ask questions and post comments at the bottom of the report.

All contingency bids for awarded players are included. Sometimes, this is a bid tied to a player that the owner received, so at times the bid amount is larger than the winning bid. We are including it to provide as much information and context as possible with each report.

*PLEASE NOTE - We have slightly altered the presentation in an effort to help you reconstruct the actual bidding a little better. The amount the owner paid is listed in a column followed by the non-adjusted Vickrey bid. The remaining bids for that player are then listed in order of amount. if the amount of an unawarded bid is greater than what was charged, the bid was a contingency bid by that owner and they were awarded a player of higher priority.

New to the report is "Todd's Take" where Lord Zola will share his unique perspective focusing on FAAB strategy, game theory and league dynamics.




BMcCarthy, NYY 16 Mike Podhorzer 18 Rick Wolf/Glenn Colton 15 Rob Leibowitz 13
Larry Schechter 5 Jeff Erickson 3
CVazquez, Bos 9 Lawr Michaels 17 Joe Sheehan 8
JSmolinksi, Tex 6 Andy Behrens 8 Larry Schechter 7 Jeff Erickson 5
Steve Moyer 0 Ron Shandler 0
SGreene, NYY 6 Jason Collette 22 Ron Shandler 5 Jeff Erickson 3
CDickerson, Cle 5 Larry Schechter 9 Jeff Erickson 5 Joe Sheehan 4
Rick Wolf/Glenn Colton 0 Steve Moyer 0 Ron Shandler 0
JArencibia, Tex 2 Larry Schechter 5 Andy Behrens 6 Mike Podhorzer 6
Ron Shandler 1
RRay, Det 1 Chris Liss 1
RGrossman, Hou 1 Jeff Erickson 5 Larry Schechter 3 Chris Liss 0
Rick Wolf/Glenn Colton 0 Steve Moyer 0 Ron Shandler 0
DJohnson, Tor 1 Mike Podhorzer 8 Larry Schechter 2
DRoss, Bos 1 Ron Shandler 1 Rick Wolf/Glenn Colton 0
FCervelli, NYY 1 Joe Sheehan 3
AGarcia, CWS 1 Rick Wolf/Glenn Colton 1
JBurton, Min 0 Steve Moyer 0
ALoup, Tor 0 Steve Moyer 0
TSipp, Hou 0 Larry Schechter 0 Ron Shandler 0 Steve Moyer 0
BShaw, Cle 0 Ron Shandler 0
SKelley, NYY 0 Ron Shandler 0
AGose, Tor 0 Ron Shandler 0 Larry Schechter 2
ENavarro, LAA 0 Rob Leibowitz 0
BOberholtzer, Hou 0 Rob Leibowitz 0


ESogard, Oak Larry Schechter 3
CCorporan, Hou Joe Sheehan 2
BBrach, Bal Jason Collette 1
DRobertson, Tex Larry Schechter 1
DLeone, Sea Ron Shandler 0
FAbad, Oak Larry Schechter 0
GGreen, LAA Rick Wolf/Glenn Colton 0
MMorin, LAA Larry Schechter 0
THunter, Bal Larry Schechter 0
TRedmond, Tor Steve Moyer 0
YMedina, Sea Larry Schechter 0

Todd's Take

There's something very interesting with the J.P. Arencibia bidding this week. I'm guessing some didn't realize he was called up and will see some time at first base but that's not the interesting point. It's obvious that a couple of those that bid on Arencibia did so not so much because they needed a catcher (or else they would have also bid on Christian Vazquez) but rather because they wanted his power potential, regardless of position. It just speaks towards the vapid nature of the available players that a catcher not assured of at bats (Geovany Soto was activated) but may be playing first base (Carlos Pena was released) is being looked at as the best available hitter. Explore all avenues to upgrade, you never know what you may find.




JVotto, Cin 26 Peter Kreutzer 43 Tristan H. Cockcroft 25 Scott Wilderman 11
Brian Walton 6
GKottaras, StL 9 Seth Trachtman 12 Todd Zola 8 Mike Gianella 3
Derek Carty 3 Scott Wilderman 0
GSizemore, Phi 9 Phil Hertz 18 Peter Kreutzer 8 Derek Carty 3
Mike Gianella 3
RSantiago, Cin 5 Mike Gianella 5 Steve Gardner 4 Phil Hertz 2
Peter Kreutzer 0 Scott Wilderman 0
TCahill, Ari 4 Mike Gianella 20 Phil Hertz 5
VNuno, Ari 3 Seth Trachtman 8 Phil Hertz 3 Brian Walton 2
Derek Carty 2 Peter Kreutzer 0
PGosselin, Atl 1 Lenny Melnick  1
JGoebbert, SD 1 Mike Gianella 5 Steve Gardner 0
EHerrera, Mil 1 Steve Gardner 4
JDiekman, Phi 0 Scott Wilderman 0 Phil Hertz 1 Tristan H. Cockcroft 0
RDetwiler, Was 0 Gene McCaffrey 0
SManess, StL 0 Steve Gardner 0 Gene McCaffrey 0
BMorris, Mia 0 Peter Kreutzer 0 Steve Gardner 0
ATorres, SD 0 Seth Trachtman 0 Tristan H. Cockcroft 0


BConrad, SD Mike Gianella 3
JMarquis, Phi Seth Trachtman 2
LSchafer, Mil Steve Gardner 1
JHoover, Cin Steve Gardner 0
KNegron, Cin Steve Gardner 0
OPerez, Ari Steve Gardner 0 Mike Gianella 0
JBaker, ChC Seth Trachtman 0
MStites, Ari Seth Trachtman 0
TGosewisch, Ari Seth Trachtman 0
KQuackenbush, SD Phil Hertz 1 Seth Trachtman 0
CContreras, Cin Peter Kreutzer 0
JHowell, LAD Peter Kreutzer 0
JHughes, Pit Peter Kreutzer 0
AOttavino, Col Mike Gianella 0 Steve Gardner 0
AVarvaro, Atl Mike Gianella 0
JDiaz, Cin Gene McCaffrey 0 Phil Hertz 0
JWilson, Pit Gene McCaffrey 0

Brian Walton's Commentary

With the Tout rules offering full FAAB reimbursement only until the All-Star break, Phil Hertz of BaseballHQ had a decision to make. Would he keep Joey Votto stashed on the disabled list and hope for a late season return or recoup the full $38 paid on draft day? Hertz went for the latter.

Peter Kreutzer was among the Touts who hopped all over the new free agent Votto. Rotoman offered $43 and had to pay $26. Ironically, it was Kreutzer who had originally drafted Votto before trading him to Hertz on Memorial Day for Jay Bruce.

Hertz spent some of his cash on new Phillies outfielder Grady Sizemore, bidding $18 and paying $9. We should find out very quickly if the oft-injured Sizemore will be rejuvenated or booed in the City of Brotherly Love.

I was surprised at the level of interest in George Kottaras, signed by St. Louis in the wake of Yadier Molina’s injury. Seth Trachtman was willing to go $12 and had to pay $8. My guess is that if Tony Cruz does not cut it, the Cards will look for a better fill-in than either one of them.

Despite the rumor mill heating up, no major trade occurred in the National League this past week. There was one leftover, however. The move of Vidal Nuno from the Yankees to the Diamondbacks occurred a week ago Sunday, but was not legal in Tout until the next day. As a result, my $2 high bid last Sunday night was nullified and Nuno remained in the pool for another week-plus. After Nuno posted one good start and one bad before the break, I let my $2 offer ride, fully expecting it to be beaten. It was, as Trachtman offered $8, but had to pay just $3.

Todd's Take

I was all set to carry on how much I screwed up this week (and I did) but as it turns out, it isn't quite as much as I thought. I'll explain.

SCREW UP #1 -- I read somewhere the Cardinals were going to give George Kottaras some decent playing time and with Gerald Laird and Hector Sanchez as my catchers, I could certainly use an upgrade. For reasons I'll discuss in my screw up section next week, I'm sitting with the second most FAAB, 8 more than the next team so I bid 8 on Kottaras, figuring I'd still be #2. I then realized I have Yonder Alonso on the DL and Thursday was the last day to turn in DL players for the full rebate ($15 in this case, else it drops to $7). I could have turned in Alonso and upped my bid on Kottaras but didn't think I would need more than 8 for him and also didn't think the extra FAAB would get me something better than Alonso when he comes back, even if he loses playing time (which is likely). After the FAAB results were announced, I was pretty mad that I didn't drop Alonso and bid more. Then Brian sent in his quip and he's not as high on Kottaras as what I had read -- and Brian knows his Cardinals. Truth be told, if this were another league, I would have dropped Brian a note, asking about St . Louis' plans at catcher but it would have been really bad form to put him on the spot in a league in which we both compete. So the bottom line is I may not regret not bidding more for Kottaras but I'm not happy with my process -- always judge the process, not the result.

SCREW UP #2 -- I put in my bid for Kottaras earlier in the week and since there were no NL transactions of consequence that would change my bids, I never went back to the site until after the run. Lo and behold, Joey Votto was purchased -- how did I miss that?!?!?! My initial reaction was shame on me for not reviewing last week's drops. As it turns out, shame on me is still appropriate, but for a different reason -- don't assume, know thy rules. I was under the impression that a player dropped for DL rebate would not be available until the next FAAB run -- I was wrong. There was indeed a reason for me to check the site periodically; to see if there was a DL drop that may be worth a bid. Shame on me. Not that it matters, but failing to note Votto was available if dropped last week would have been more egregious than not knowing the rule, though both are sloppy playing on may part.




AAlcantara, ChC 23 Scott Swanay 67 Fred Zinkie 22 Al Melchior 16
Nando DiFino 11 Tim Heaney 3
CCoghlan, ChC 9 Paul Singman 13 Fred Zinkie 8 Fred Zinkie 2
Tim Heaney 2
KGiles, Phi 5 Ray Flowers 5 Tim Heaney 4
CCorporan, Hou 1 David Gonos 4
JArencibia, Tex 1 Nando DiFino 6
NFranklin, Sea 1 Nando DiFino 2
KJohnson, NYY 1 Patrick Davitt 9
WVenable, SD 1 Patrick Davitt 3
STolleson, Tor 1 Scott Swanay 5
JNelson, Mil 1 Scott Swanay 13
DPhelps, NYY 1 Scott Swanay 7 Tim Heaney 0
EVolquez, Pit 1 Scott Swanay 7
JVeras, Hou 1 Tim Heaney 2
SFuld, Min 1 Fred Zinkie 4 Tim Heaney 0 Al Melchior 0
CBethancourt, Atl 1 Zach Steinhorn 6
JDyson, KC 0 Al Melchior 0 Patrick Davitt 1


GSoto, Tex Zach Steinhorn 3
MScutaro, SF Scott Swanay 3
JCollmenter, Ari Scott Swanay 3
DMatsuzaka, NYM Scott Swanay 3
BreAnderson, Col Scott Swanay 2
YSolarte, NYY Scott Swanay 1
DStoren, Was Scott Swanay 1
DODay, Bal Scott Swanay 1
AGuerrero, LAD Scott Swanay 1
BBoxberger, TB Scott Swanay 1 Tim Heaney 0
NHundley, Bal Zach Steinhorn 0
CJoseph, Bal Zach Steinhorn 0
VNuno, Ari Tim Heaney 0
SGreene, NYY Tim Heaney 0
NFeliz, Tex Tim Heaney 0
CYoung, NYM Patrick Davitt 0
CDenorfia, SD Patrick Davitt 0
DJohnson, Tor Fred Zinkie 0
CDickerson, Cle Al Melchior 0

Zach Steinhorn's Commentary

Armed with a league-high 92 FAAB dollars heading into the first post-All-Star break FAAB period, Scott Swanay decided that now was a good time to put that money to use, bidding a hefty $67 on recent Cubs call-up Arismendy Alcantara and winning him for the Vickrey reduced price of $23. Through his first five big league games, the 22-year-old second baseman is batting .391 with one homer, five RBI, six runs scored and one stolen base. Alcantara has posted some impressive power and speed numbers in the Minors, and with the North Siders in full-scale rebuild mode, he should continue to see regular playing time for the rest of the season.

Chris Coghlan has been swinging a red-hot bat in July, hitting .435 with three homers and 12 RBI through 13 games, and he’s another guy who can contribute in multiple categories. Oh, and he’s also a former Rookie of the Year, so this isn’t exactly a no-name player who is benefiting from some good fortune. There’s definitely mixed league value here.

The Jonathan Papelbon trade rumors will not go away until he is actually dealt. In the increasingly likely scenario that Papelbon gets traded, Ken Giles, who has allowed just one run over his first 14 big league innings while striking out 18, seems like the logical ninth inning replacement for the Phillies. By the way, a notable benefit of making these speculative-type pickups this week is that the added player only needs to be in active lineups for three days as opposed to the usual seven days.

Todd's Take

Since The Fantasy Sherpa is front and center with this week's bidding, it's the perfect time to check back in and see where his team sits and how well he has recovered from his now infamous draft day escapade of using over $50 of unused budget (not planned, but a clever gaming of a rules loophole) to draft a DL player then turn him in for more FAAB. Scott is still middle-of-the-pack but there are several points in play so a top-5 finish is well within reach. By means of reminder, clicking the heading for each section takes you to the standings for that league in both the Touit Wars and LABR reports.




AAlcantara, ChC 23 Perry Van Hook 31 Tim McLeod 22 Grey Albright 21
Adam Ronis 17 Tom Kessenich 14 Charlie Wiegert 6
GGonzalez, Was 20 Anthony Perri 25 Perry Van Hook 48 Charlie Wiegert 19
Tim McLeod 19
NSwisher, Cle 9 Paul Sporer 13 Adam Ronis 8 Charlie Wiegert 0
WMiley, Ari 3 Charlie Wiegert 5 Eno Sarris 2 Anthony Perri 2
CCoghlan, ChC 3 Adam Ronis 4 Anthony Perri 2 Perry Van Hook 1
CColabello, Min 3 Tom Kessenich 5 Charlie Wiegert 2 Anthony Perri 2
AHeaney, Mia 1 Eno Sarris 3 Nicholas Minnix 3
EVolquez, Pit 1 Nicholas Minnix 12 Eno Sarris 1
JHellickson, TB 1 Eno Sarris 1 Nicholas Minnix 0
AAmarista, SD 1 Grey Albright 2 Charlie Wiegert 2
CGillaspie, CWS 1 Anthony Perri 1 Paul Sporer 8 Adam Ronis 1
Perry Van Hook 1
DSalazar, Cle 1 Ray Murphy 6 Nicholas Minnix 6
MGonzalez, Hou 1 Charlie Wiegert 2
RGrossman, Hou 1 Perry Van Hook 1
KFujikawa, ChC 0 Charlie Wiegert 0
DPhelps, NYY 0 Charlie Wiegert 0
NFeliz, Tex 0 Perry Van Hook 0


HSantiago, LAA Eno Sarris 1
EButler, Col Eno Sarris 1
BRoberts, NYY Charlie Wiegert 1
EMujica, Bos Charlie Wiegert 0 Perry Van Hook 0
JHanrahan, Det Perry Van Hook 0
BZiegler, Ari Perry Van Hook 0
RFlaherty, Bal Charlie Wiegert 0
MGonzalez, Bal Charlie Wiegert 0
JDeLaRosa, Col Charlie Wiegert 0
BMcCarthy, NYY Charlie Wiegert 0

Perry Van Hook's Commentary

This is a perfect strategy week in TOUT with only three games on the schedule. Remember that in TOUT leagues a player you win in FAAB must be active on your team for the first week. With only three games you can afford to take a zero at either a hitting or pitching slot, so you could add whichever minor leaguer you think might be called up soon or buy a player on the DL.

As I noted before while it was legal to do that in any prior week I couldn’t waste a slot as a leading or contending team. And this week there was the tantalizing Arismendy Alcantara in the free agent pile. Unfortunately not only is MI not a weak position on my roster with Jose Altuve, Jimmy Rollins, and normally Chris Owings or Martin Prado, BUT we don’t really know how long Alcantara will be up for the Cubs and I already have Javier Baez on reserve with only four reserve slots. So even if I won him and played him this week if he was sent down this week or next I would have to drop him or Baez or one of the pitchers I regularly play. I also have Mark Trumbo ready to be activated since he is no longer on the DL. So I eschewed bidding on Alcantara and tried to replace Ender Inciarte who will lose at bats with Trumbo back in the Arizona lineup by bidding on someone I could play this week in the UT slot.

BUT I did want to add a relief pitcher this week as the relievers have more value in a three day week where some of your SP won’t have a start anyway. At the top of that list were those relief pitchers that might get a chance to close if their teams traded the current closer and on top of that list were Neftali Feliz, Texas and Edward Mujica, Boston. Joaquin Benoit is already rostered or he would have been in that group. I also added Joel Hanrahan who is on the DL for the Tigers but is trying to work his way back to be there waiting for a Joe Nathan meltdown. And I could try and buy one of these RP or a couple of playable SP I for just a $0 bid.

And at that point I thought I was done, but I went back to the free agent list to make sure that I hadn’t missed another reliever and lo and behold, sitting there waving to me was Gio Gonzalez. I wasn’t sure that was correct so I went to the transactions from last week and found out that sure enough Gonzalez had been released by Team X. Back to the bid routine and I bid $48 of my $67 remaining FAAB to try and add Gonzalez for the rest of the season. (Thank goodness this is a Vickrey bid system because while I would love to have Gio for the rest of the year I would prefer to play less)

Would I be successful?

ETA – I wrote that last Sunday before our normal FAAB run in TOUT … Except that because of the ASB the FAAB run was pushed to Thursday night which I was unaware of. And in the meantime I had proposed at trade to Nick Minnix, offering him Jimmy Rollins for Doug Fister. This would strengthen my pitching staff at the cost of some stolen bases but that is a category where I currently lead the pack by twenty nine swipes. In addition Nick has 82 steals good for seventh in the league and nine points. But just five steals ahead in fifth place in that column is Tim McLeod currently in 2nd place, nine points behind me. So Nick taking away a point from Tim would help my cause.

That also meant I had room to play Alcantara for as long as he stays up and with Fister in hand lessened my need for Gio. So I altered my top bid group to $31 on Alcantara and secondarily $48 for Gonzalez.  I didn’t want to bid more on Alcantara with his status on the Cubs up in the air, thus the lower bid. But if I missed on him – highly likely as there four teams with more FAAB than my total – I did not want to miss out on Gonzalez. (Pardon my lengthening this week’s comments but I thought important to fully explain my moves in a very unusual week)

So now how did I do? Well the good news is that I got Alcantara (headed to Phoenix for three games) for just $23 and beat the $22 put up by second place Tim McLeod. The bad news is that Gonzalez then went for just $20 to Anthony Perri, so I could have had both for less than I bid for Gio – but who knew? I would have thought that if I bid $25 on each I might get neither. I did get Neftali Feliz for my $0 bid and yes there were others who rostered Andrew Heaney (minors) $1; Danny Salazar (minors) $1; and even Jeremy Hellickson sent back to the minors (so $1) for extra work because of the short week.

The bids on Alcantara and Gonzalez were the high bids for the week and several players were one for one or zero dollar bids because of the short week.

Todd's Take

There's a lot to digest this week (and Perry hit on a couple of points I wanted to make already) so I'll leave you with one last thought. We're approaching the point in the season where points trump value. There's still ten weeks left - alot can happen so overall quality is still important. But categories are beginning to take shape in terms of distribution and now's the time to begin managing accordingly. Raw value is secondary to roster impact.



0 #1 Perry Van Hook 2014-07-18 19:34
Just one note on Brian's comments - Hertz spent $18 of his existing FAAB on Sizemore - he doesn't get the $38 reclaim on Votto until the following period (a TOUT rule so everyone knows the FAAB amounts - you can't just drop your DL guy and surprise the field with new found dollars)

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